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Just Having Fun at RE+ Edition

Talking with the director of the Energy Department’s Solar Energy Technologies Office, the CEO of Empact Technologies, and more

Jael at RE+
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This week I’m in Anaheim wandering the halls of RE+ for the first time. It’s been a thrill to learn about the cavalcade of companies working on the frontlines of the energy transition. I’ll have a LOT more to say about my trip in next week’s edition of The Fight. But during my first day there I decided to ask a few impressive individuals to sit in my hot seat. Here’s what they said!

Becca Jones-Albertus – Director of the Energy Department’s Solar Energy Technologies Office

  • Does the federal government’s neutrality on what U.S. regions are best for renewables help or hurt the energy transition, given how many competing interests are at play? “I think for our country it helps. It provides more opportunities for local areas to engage and take charge of their own futures. The clean energy transition doesn’t depend on whether we develop a plan in [one] particular area. That means there are more communities that can engage, can push for benefits for those systems. There’s more room and opportunity there.”

Kevin Diau – CEO of 1Climate, an AI permitting assistance tool

  • Can AI help with NIMBY problems? “I think AI can make it easier to understand where all those regulations are that exist. But I think that a lot of the challenges when it comes to people having NIMBY conflicts, that’s a lot of interpersonal dynamics that AI can’t necessarily address head on. I think developers still have these NIMBY challenges from people in the community.”

Charles Dauber – CEO of Empact Technologies, policy consulting firm

  • What’s the question you’ve been asked most about the IRA at RE+? “Even though the IRA’s been around for like, two years, it turns out given safe harbor last year, many companies didn’t have to deal with this until now. So we’re just now starting to get questions about dealing with prevailing wage and apprenticeship compliance requirements. We see that probably from 70% of the people that walk up here: How do I go do this? I’m getting requirements from my investors that want to prove we’re going to be compliant with these requirements.

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Data Center Moratoria Are ‘Unconstitutional,’ Lawsuits Claim

A new front opens in the data center wars.

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A series of lawsuits filed in federal court asks a big question – are data center moratoria constitutional?

In early August, data center developer DC Blox sued the city of Nashville in federal court to overturn a zoning moratorium stopping them from building a hyperscale facility adjacent to the city zoo. “The Data Center Moratorium, moreover, is a targeted attack against DC BLOX, in violation of federal constitutional protections,” the suit argued, claiming that it defied the corporation’s due process and equal protection rights.

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Local Permitting Fights Take Over National Politics

And more on this week’s conflicts around project development.

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1. Montgomery County, Pennsylvania – We reached a new normal in the data center backlash, and it all seems to have started in King of Prussia.

  • On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro announced his state – one once coveted by the AI industry for hyperscale construction – will no longer permit projects without local support. It was a step change from posture taken mere months earlier, when he announced voluntary standards for data center development that I found may have been vetted by representatives of the industry, including Amazon.
  • Tucked in Shapiro’s speech was what I can only imagine was his last straw: developer Brian O’Neill’s efforts to construct data center buildings in the King of Prussia community, close to where he grew up himself. Without calling him out by name, the governor said he was “stoking fear in the community, even though he has no realistic path to getting power at the sites any time soon.”
  • “Here’s something else he has no realistic path to getting: my support,” the governor said.
  • As the climate news outlet DeSmog wrote earlier this month, O’Neill had closely collaborated with members of Shapiro’s administration for more than a year before this speech happened, including on securing energy. But the real estate magnate’s projects kept facing local rejections; people really don’t seem to want what he’s been selling.
  • Now Shapiro is turning on O’Neill, transforming him into what he described as a type of “speculative” developer his government wishes to discourage from building projects in his state.

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A CNN Reporter Joins the Fray

A conversation with Ella Nilsen — formerly of CNN, now with Echo Communications — about where we stand in the fight over the energy transition.

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This week’s conversation is with Ella Nilsen, who recently left CNN as a climate reporter and is now a new vice president at energy and cleantech PR firm Echo Communications. Having worked on Capitol Hill alongside Nilsen, I knew her to be an exceptional reporter who asked hard questions of those in power on all sides. So when I found out she was taking her journalism hat off and putting the comms cap on, I wanted to do something you rarely get to do with one of your reporting peers: ask for her own opinion about where we stand in the fight over the energy transition.

Our chat was lightly edited for clarity.

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