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Just Having Fun at RE+ Edition

Talking with the director of the Energy Department’s Solar Energy Technologies Office, the CEO of Empact Technologies, and more

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This week I’m in Anaheim wandering the halls of RE+ for the first time. It’s been a thrill to learn about the cavalcade of companies working on the frontlines of the energy transition. I’ll have a LOT more to say about my trip in next week’s edition of The Fight. But during my first day there I decided to ask a few impressive individuals to sit in my hot seat. Here’s what they said!

Becca Jones-Albertus – Director of the Energy Department’s Solar Energy Technologies Office

  • Does the federal government’s neutrality on what U.S. regions are best for renewables help or hurt the energy transition, given how many competing interests are at play? “I think for our country it helps. It provides more opportunities for local areas to engage and take charge of their own futures. The clean energy transition doesn’t depend on whether we develop a plan in [one] particular area. That means there are more communities that can engage, can push for benefits for those systems. There’s more room and opportunity there.”

Kevin Diau – CEO of 1Climate, an AI permitting assistance tool

  • Can AI help with NIMBY problems? “I think AI can make it easier to understand where all those regulations are that exist. But I think that a lot of the challenges when it comes to people having NIMBY conflicts, that’s a lot of interpersonal dynamics that AI can’t necessarily address head on. I think developers still have these NIMBY challenges from people in the community.”

Charles Dauber – CEO of Empact Technologies, policy consulting firm

  • What’s the question you’ve been asked most about the IRA at RE+? “Even though the IRA’s been around for like, two years, it turns out given safe harbor last year, many companies didn’t have to deal with this until now. So we’re just now starting to get questions about dealing with prevailing wage and apprenticeship compliance requirements. We see that probably from 70% of the people that walk up here: How do I go do this? I’m getting requirements from my investors that want to prove we’re going to be compliant with these requirements.

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Spotlight

Wind Industry Goes for Broke Against Trump

Senior executives at EDP, Apex, Pattern, and other large renewables companies did something remarkable in a recent court filing: They publicly criticized the administration.

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Major energy developers are going all in against the Trump administration in court, in what appears to be the first time many are publicly challenging the president in spite of any potential risk of retaliation.

As I chronicled, Trump is now effectively blocking any new wind projects in the U.S., utilizing federal authority over American aerospace to stop what was once a run-of-the-mill approval process for the height of turbines through the Federal Aviation Administration. They’ve done this by using the Defense Department to gum up the interagency review process, with the Pentagon holding up bureaucratic machinations citing vague, alleged national security concerns. Earlier this month, regional renewable energy trade groups filed a lawsuit against the Pentagon and FAA seeking a judicial order akin to what they’ve already won against the Interior Department’s anti-renewables permitting freeze. The case argues Trump can’t hold these routine processes up because, well, they’re mandated by law to ultimately clear things if they meet basic specifications. It arrives as the Trump administration appeals a separate lawsuit against the Interior Department’s de facto permitting freeze, which was formally filed today.

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The Renewables Battle Underway in Arizona

And more of the week’s top fights around development.

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1. Apache County, Arizona – Renewables developers are trying to head off restrictions in a coveted region of the sun-swept Arizona desert.

  • I’ve detailed how this county is a crucial battleground in the fight over local restrictions on renewable energy. So profound the conflict has been over renewables in Apache County that it helped spur a failed campaign to enact a statewide pause on wind development.
  • Well, the next engagement is underway: On June 3, the Apache County Planning and Zoning Commission recommended a temporary moratorium on future solar and wind development, responding to resident-run campaigns against specific projects.
  • I’ve noticed large advocacy non-profits have begun running hyperlocal letter campaigns to the Apache County Board of Supervisors asking pro-renewables voices to weigh in against the moratorium. Arizonans for a Clean Economy is running a sponsored ad on Google, resulting in a letter campaign popping up if you search renewable energy and the name of the state. “Send a letter today and ask your Supervisor to support policies that unleash Arizona’s energy potential while keeping costs low, conserving our water, and creating energy independence for Apache County,” their letter-writing website states.
  • Meanwhile, Veterans Power America, a national organization, is asking people to tell the board: “Clean energy projects can bring new revenue and economic opportunity to Apache County for Veterans like us. Don’t shut the door on progress.” (For what it's worth, I learned of this ad from anti-wind activists complaining about it on Facebook.)
  • What happens now is a procedural waiting game. The county will now go through a public notice and comment process ahead of formal consideration of the planning and zoning commission’s recommendations. While a decision isn’t imminent, I will be watching this one like the area’s sharp-shinned hawk.

2. Montgomery County, Alabama – A so-called “AI watchman” has won the GOP nomination for Alabama Public Service Commission, indicating how deeply frustrations run in red states against the nascent infrastructure buildout for artificial intelligence.

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What Would Make the Data Center Boom Popular?

A conversation with Mark Muro, senior fellow at the Brookings Institute’s metro policy program

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Today’s conversation is with Mark Muro, senior fellow at the Brookings Institute’s metro policy program. Too often I’m asked, what’s the version of a data center boom that people like? I reached out to Muro because he recently coauthored research into the ways communities and data centers can potentially work together to build more mutually beneficial and popular industry growth. The conversation wound up perfect for The Fight, so I had to include it in full.

The following Q&A was lightly edited for clarity.

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