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Lots of Environmental Groups Oppose the Permitting Bill. This One Doesn’t.

Rob talks with Evergreen Action’s Lena Moffitt and Pete Wyckoff about why they support BAAJA, even in spite of its flaws.

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The Senate will likely vote next week on the Bipartisan American Affordability and Jobs Act, a bill to reshape the federal permitting process.

The proposed legislation has divided the environmental community and the set of interest groups often aligned with Democrats. The Wilderness Society and Earthjustice are opposed, and the Sierra Club wants big changes. The AFL-CIO and the National Urban League support the measure.

One of the few environmental nonprofits to affirmatively endorse the bill — and not express concerns or just stay silent — is Evergreen Action, a relatively young think tank and advocacy group that is entirely focused on climate change, clean energy, and decarbonization. “Despite the monumental election, I do not believe that a better deal is around the corner. The time to act is now,” Lena Moffitt, its executive director, said in a statement last week. “We have to start building clean energy at scale.”

On this episode of Shift Key, Rob is joined by Lena Moffitt, Evergreen’s executive director, and Pete Wyckoff, its vice president of policy. They discuss why Evergreen endorsed the bill, how Democrats’ Inflation Reduction Act experience led to this moment, and what still keeps them up at night about the bill. They also chat about how — even if the bill passes — big changes will be needed at the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, or FERC.

Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap News.

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Mentioned:

“Why We’re Supporting the Permitting Bill,” by Lena Moffitt

Senate Permitting Deal Wins First Vote

The Last-Minute Changes to the Senate Permitting Deal, Explained

Martin Heinrich on What’s Next for Permitting Reform

Previously on Shift Key: Why Permitting Reform Is a Historic Victory Over Utilities

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